Case takes legal action against timeshare firm

Case takes legal action against timeshare firm

By Jessica Lim THE Consumers Association of Singapore (Case) has taken legal action via an injunction against a timeshare company for unfair trading practices. Yesterday, the consumer watchdog said at least 19 complaints had been lodged against Garraway Enterprises' Singapore branch, and attempts to get the firm to make redress had failed. Related link: » Sunshine Empire chief on 20 charges Said the association's executive director, Mr Seah Seng Choon: 'We had no choice but to take action to make sure that they observe fair practice.' The injunction demands that the company stop making misleading claims and exerting undue pressure on consumers. Total claims against Garraway come to $230,000, with amounts ranging from $3,650 to $30,000. The complaints follow a similar pattern. Complainants say Garraway approached them with winning scratch cards, then asked them to collect the prizes at the company's premises. Once there, they were coerced into buying memberships which promised them benefits like an easy access booking system, and discounted airfares to various places. None of these came to be. Case said it had tried to get the firm to sign a Voluntary Compliance Agreement, in which a company admits it has carried out unfair trading practices and will compensate consumers and clean up its act. But Garraway officials refused. The company could not be reached for comment despite repeated calls. If it does not comply with Case's injunction, it may find itself in the district court. The action against Garraway comes on the back of 2,000 complaints lodged against timeshare companies annually for the past five years, the most for any industry. In 2006 and 2007, Case proceeded with injunctions against timeshare companies Orion's Belt Network and Global Europ (Asia), after numerous complaints were filed against them. Midway through their respective court hearings, both companies conceded to unfair practices and stopped them. This article was first published in The Straits Times on February 06, 2009.

Another Blog from Another Garraway Victim

Beware of Garraway enterprises

GARRAWAY enterprises claims to be in holiday business, are in to false promisses to lure innocent customers and extract money. Once the money is in to their pocket or you are trapped you don't hear from them.... you don't receive reply for your calls or mails...

Beware of GARRAWAY ...

Enquire about them before you signup with them about their service after signing up.. do a study before you visit them when they call you to attend their 2hour meeting

once you are in ... you are in their trap.. they will suck your cash out with all false promiss and that is the end.

If any of you have similar experience of mine you are welcome to leave your comments and feed back to save at least the innocent people that may fall into the trap again.

I will be posting my experince in details with proof of what I say and emails that you will find funny in the following days.

CASE Hauls Timeshare Company, Garraway to Court

CASE Hauls Timeshare Company, Garraway to Court

Link: http://dailysingapore.com/2009/02/06/case-hauls-timeshare-company-garraway-to-court/

February 6, 2009

Consumers Association of Singapore (CASE) hauls timeshare company, Garraway Enterprises Limited Singapore Branch to court for breaching the Consumer Protection Act, particularly, by exerting undue pressure on its consumers, making misleading and/or false claims and/or representing that a price benefit or advantage exists in respect of a good or service where such benefit or advantage does not.

Read more on CASE Takes A 4th Company, Garraway To Court (PDF).

Of Timeshare scam artists Part 1.

Of Timeshare scam artists

Link: http://tomorrow.sg/archives/2006/09/01/of_timeshare_scam_artists.html

crimeshare said:

To those of you living in Singapore, and who have yet to get that annoying telephone call, a timely warning of a timeshare scam from a company calling itself "GreatConcepts" and claiming to represent a "sponsor" named "O.T. Travel" or, as I have come to find out is in actuality "Oriental Travel". The anatomy of the scam call is as such : 1. Some chap calling claiming that you've won a IBM notebook computer valued at $4,000; they sent the notice to you - didn't you get it? No? Well, they auctioned the "prize" off because it was unclaimed (yeah, you and 2 others who didn't claim their prize). They supposedly even have an advertisement in the local paper highlighting the prize (Wow! Can't believe you didn't see that ad. Well never mind, they have a copy they can fax to you).

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Hi

Its a reminder never to sign up for any Timeshare company contract or whatever travel thing. My dad signed up under Garraway aka Concept Travels and we are stuck with this thing for for god knows how many years.
They do some hardselling thing, wrote some 'benefits' on a piece of paper which they kept it afterwards. All the 'benefits' are a huge load of crap which we never get to enjoy.
When engaging with their services, the first proposed rates is so much higher than the published rates by the airlines,tour agencies, etc. Had to make noise with them before they make it $50 cheaper. Worse, they can actually take 1 week plus to reply.
And no. its not the first trip... my subsequent ones with them is also the same.. therefore we had no choice but to complain to CASE.
Till now, problem is still pending. The director apparently cant seem to be bothered. Their replies to CASE was slow. They really really cant seem to be bothered.
Now, we're being bug by another company "Option Vests". They said that they can help us claim back the money, etc. But I really doubt so. Will check with CASE and seek for their advices next week.
I did question "Option Vests" on how they know about us. They said something about our list being displayed on this Developers' List the moment we signed up w Garraway. Strange right?

Posted by stariee* on 31 January, 2009 - 3:09pm

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hi stariee, can i find out how much your dad paid for the cvc membership and what are the so called benefits that was promised but not fulfilled?

Posted by Anonymous and curious* on 2 February, 2009 - 8:41pm

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hi stariee, can i find out how much your dad paid for the cvc membership and what are the so called benefits that was promised but not fulfilled?

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 2 February, 2009 - 8:36pm

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Hi,

I came across this from one of the forums and lucky enough, printed them out. Why lucky? Cos these have been taken out from the forum already. Below are the links.

http://www.4shared.com/file/83041982/d7cd9253/CCF01292009_00000.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/83042010/f565dc57/CCF01292009_00001.html

Rgds.

Posted by nanabi* on 29 January, 2009 - 11:48am

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Hi all,

Have anyone heard of Option Vest? They called me n said they can help me terminate ALL my timeshare contract. I met them. They claimed that they work with a credible legal company. i have to pay legal n admin fees around 8K. Isaid i think abt it n make a decision later. They didnt force me but i had to put a deposit before i leave and had to make appt to seal the deal in 4 days. Im so stressed up. But im refusing to go. I cant part with any more money!

Option Vests? Are this company for real? I dont know. :(

Suspicious Lady :[

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 25 January, 2009 - 12:13am

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hie guys...
just be careful of those good remarks posted by netizens..those posts are actually from the representatives themselves...
i even knoe their sales pitch..what i can say is they lack of transparency..
they claim to be wholesalers..
which it can never be..
for those who have attended the presentation, they should know better. call up NATAS or SINGAPORE TOURISM BOARD AND CHECK !! they are just a bunch of conmen. Protect your hard-earned money!

Posted by ex representative of Garraway Enterprise* on 22 January, 2009 - 3:51pm

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Need to know whether Garraway enterprises is scam or real?

Posted by lily* on 22 January, 2009 - 3:40pm

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i m not sure of garraway but data dynamikz is not been delivering their promise of the free trip..we booked since july was postponed till dec but in nov they told us fully booked!!! n we were told that we gets$100 for intro 2 friends but till date we get nothing.. Pls doo not go it is a scam..we tried calling many times but they used delay tactics n in the end we wasted all our calls n sms cos they refused to deliver... so do not go for the garraway talk by data dynamikz but unsure if garraway is real like marriott they would not have used such a company like data dynamikz that did not live up to the promise!!! we went since july 08 n till date nothing is given!!

we went marriott talk n got the taka voucher on the spot! Pls warn others.

Dave if you real about the free trip pls contact the few of us who have been calling your company!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 29 January, 2009 - 9:20am

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Hi everyone,

Can I check whether if anyone who had received more than 3 Lawyer letters from ERI demand me to pay up the rest of the instalments? How to handle this case and did anyone here got sued by them in court? did you win? Please Email me, thanks. I really need help!!!!

Posted by GOH CP* on 18 January, 2009 - 3:40pm

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I went down for an job interviewed about 1 month ago at 34B south brigde road, Meridian strategies. Today I saw the recruitment ads for sales consultant again, the requirements are:
O level and above...
Must be willing to learn....
what be able to travel to overseas with clients for business all the crap stories...
I did a check, its just another timeshare reload company.

Posted by mr lee* on 13 January, 2009 - 8:35am

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My husband and I were holidaying in Singapore when we were approached by a lady pretending to do a survey. If we did the survey, we would be given a prize. She gave us 2 'scratch and win' tickets and when the tickets showed that we have 'won' some cool prizes, she acted so joyous and ushered us into an office in Ngee An City called Garraway Enterprise. We were made to promise to sit through a 75-minute presentation, which we can say 'no' to their offers after the presentation and still collect the prizes. So feeling curious and also happy that we have won something, we sat through the presentation, which took us more than 3 hours.

First, a salesperson talked to us for more than an hour, extolling the virtues and credibility of their companies and tours. Then the crunch came when we were asked to be members to enjoy the discounted tours, which amounted to SGD45000.00! This fee has to be paid in 2 successions, first payment of 50% must be done at the spot and the remainder to be paid within 10 days. We said they must be joking, as that was a lot of money involved. This fee would cover our travel requirements for 30 years.

Then we were dealt with the sales manager, Ms Katini, who tried to make a deal for us. She said she could lessen the membership fee if we were willing to take a shorter timeframe of tour packages, such as 15 years. Still we were asked to pay around SGD 18000.00. And this kept going on until the offer came down to SGD 8808.00. We still said no. So we were ushered to collect our prizes at another of their offices, Concept Travels, on the same floor.

In another room, we were greeted by a Chinese national who had married a local, Ms Alicia. She told us she was from HR and was doing a post-mortem on the salesperson performance. We told her he did his job well. Then she whisked out a form and offered a lower fee, trying to get us to become members, in the pretence of being 'helpful' to us and fulfilling out holiday dreams. This time, the fee came down to SGD 3000+ for 7 years and we still said no. Of course, they didn't seem to take no for an answer. She then pretended she would ask her boss for a better deal and then perhaps he can 'help' us.

In came a long-haired Indian named Chris, who was a smooth-talker and tried his best to convince us that it was the best offer we could ever have in our lives. We still said no and that we would like to collect our non-obligatory prizes and leave. All this time, we did feel under duress and pressure, but we knew better not to buckle and give in for there would be a lot to lose. So also fearing for our child's safety in the other office, we played along and endured the gruelling processes.

In the end, Ms Alicia unhappily took our signatures as proof of receipt and let us leave. The prizes were a SGD50 ISETAN voucher and a so-called SGD 1000.00 flight voucher, which we knew was never going to happen. The destinations unpopular and the money would never be enough to cover the entire cost of the flight.

The entire shenanigan took more than 3 hours, not kidding, and when we finally got out of the office block, it was dark already. We were exhasted and very angry at being made 'victims' due to our naivety. We spent the SGD50 voucher but kept the flight voucher as evidence, in case a lawsuit is ever taken against them and some other victim needs help.

In the first place, we were not Singaporeans. We didn't know that such a legal scam exists in Singapore. If we had been duped into paying the fee, we would have paid for the holidays already in the first place! We pity others who have been scammed. Hopefully this email can stop people from believing them. And YES, we have a bad impression of Singapore at this moment. The government ought to protect Singapore and her people from scams like these happening right under their nose.

They have 3 companies in the same floor, Garraway Enterprises, Concepts Travel and Delemere Development.

Posted by Angry Visitor* on 20 December, 2008 - 9:28pm

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wow you got the 50 voucher. we are harrassed for over 2 hours but my friend was harrassed for 5 hrs n nothing was given..we booked our free holidays n till date it was nothing!!!!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 29 January, 2009 - 9:24am

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In response to 'Angry Visitor'.
We had exactly the same treat ment and was kept there for more than 4-5 hours. In fact we were genuinely interested in a good travel package/club as we travel alot and have some flexiblility with our schedule and wanted to take advantage of special off peak offers. We realized that something was amiss when they refused to let us view their website to confirm these 'so called' great offers they were havi ng. We had agreed to put money down, gave our Credit card on the condition that we would be shown the offers available on the Members site, so that we can confirm that the offers are really Legitimate. Needless to say, they insisted that this was not possible. In the last round of conversation where you go to supposedly receive your free gifts, we finally understood, that all they are offering is the possibility of booking flights, travels & hotels through their agency. No body needs to part with THOUSANDS of dollars to recei ve trav el agency services. Fellow Singaporeans and Tourists, please beware of this supposedly great offer.
They have 3 companies in the same floor, Garraway Enterprises, Concepts Travel and Delemere Development, Ngee Ann City, 14 Floor.

Posted by In the same boat* on 30 December, 2008 - 9:05pm

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Need to know more information ragarding Garraway Enterprises, Concepts Travel and Delemere Development. are they real or scam? please help.

Posted by seema* on 22 January, 2009 - 9:04am

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its a scam. their services sucks. not any cheaper than the market rate.
they make you pay thru monthly credit card deduction and i am stuck with them. handling this matter over to CASE. hd many disputes w them.

Posted by stariee* on 31 January, 2009 - 2:56pm

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i understand how you felt my friend..parting with lots of money is not an easy task to do..i encounter the same objection as you had..i wana take a look at the website but was unable to..the reason was them being a members only tavel agency..not open to public don you think so in the same boat..?i was stuck in the middle..my family wants it..but me being sceptical like most Singaporean..belief of what other says..whether its true or not..people's mouth is trustworthy...all change when my beloved wife decided to interfere in my conversation with the manager..."what other says might be true and might be not coz we human being love to follow the tide,we have to make a decision for our family.."that knock some sense to me..so i check again their credibility..2 years in a row winning award for excellence service from NATAS..mind you..2 years..its also being publish in the strait times in 2007..with these awards..how on earth it can be a scam..?so i decided to make a gamble..and you know what it pay off..i am a proud member now..without concept travel service..a trip to disney wil take a longer time to achive..thank you so much concept for calling me to attend the presentation..

Posted by proud member* on 21 January, 2009 - 11:18am

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Can you give me some more information, such as membership fee and about their services. I am interested in taking this membership but just to clarify thing before going ahead. I welcome ur suggestions. I could of great help for me as well as for my friends to decide in this. Thanks

Posted by ritu* on 22 January, 2009 - 8:45am

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Hi,

Thank you for sharing as we may be one of the victims who just pay deposit yesterday.
We are now checking for legal advices.

Posted by Grateful Victims* on 22 December, 2008 - 11:27am

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hi there, we also one of the victim. can you share if you have some legal advice. I just pay the deposit few days ago. and i realized that something not right with this company.

Posted by another victim* on 6 February, 2009 - 11:04pm

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anyone heard of Chevalier Don Associate (CDA) who claims that they can help to terminate your timeshare & get your money back....???

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 19 December, 2008 - 1:27pm

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Another company to suck your hard earn $. There are so many companies outside which claim that they can help you terminate your timeshare and get your money back but you have to pay an upfront money first. Different companies use different terminlogy such as transfer, liqidate, en-bloc, jurdical manager, real estate funds, commodities, rent, reinvest, funds and all the bullshits name they could think of... for one reason-to suck more money out from you. Do not believe anyone of them,whatever the names they change. Go back the timeshare company which you've bought and if it is fully paid and you want to terminate it, it is free of charge, and forget recover any money for one simple logic-Goods sold are not refundable. If the timeshare you bought has closed down, you dont even have to terminate it.

Posted by mr lee* on 19 December, 2008 - 3:13pm

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Hi Guys,
Some smart ass chick from Meridian Strategies called up my parent's residental place to pyscho them..instead it was me talking with him in English
So its all the wuuahhhhaaa about Interval gonna sue them for maintenance fee and they gonna fight to keep your freaking expose name off the so call database from every bastard company trying to cheat you ...as if they aren't....and help you get back after asessing your ownership if valid...blar blar blar..e usual bullshit...
ANyway they mentioned their membership number and amount paid....it was as if our details are in the "Book of Naive TimeShare Directory"...or else they are in cohoots with the bunch of other hyennas queuing up for their chance to cheat you more.
Seriously has ANY one of you managed to TERMINATE your contract....or do NOTHING at all ....... or choose to spurge more hard-earned $$ on these ridiculous companies? And if they're really so freaking successful in getting back our $$, why are there no reports online/paper / news? Wat the hell....
I asked them since they are fighting for us..have they contacted IR yet on this and confirmed the list of ppl that IR has gathered to confirm sueing us? Ans: NOOOOO...err....then how the hell they know IR is gonna do that...and how the hell are they gonna help us from IR since NO communication with IR ? LOL...wat the hell...
Let me know if i'm the only one laughing here...and me + my bro are gonna make a trip to CASE and understand more even though we fully understand NOTHING can be done at this point.
FYI...my parents had already paid in FULL $20K....they said maintenance fee only valid if you go there and stay...but i doubt so....anyway they havnt been paying for years liao.....they bought another fucking CHINA property and paid alot too but gave up and terminated it.

Posted by Son of Naive Parents Kena Cheated* on 17 December, 2008 - 8:36pm

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hi FactoryEffex ,
thanks for sharing your experience.
we regular forum users understand that it is your good intention of sharing your views with us, which is by no means defamatory.

hm...i wonder how well the scammers sleep at night....

Posted by Passerby S* on 17 December, 2008 - 8:37am

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please do not proceed ... its all scam . im just like u proceed wif axial and paid 13k den now axial close down take over by plantimum after that Meridien strageries and option vest called whats does that means ? they are all link trying to suck our $$$ one co. after one co. esp...the chinese middle age lady called Melissa Chan and malay big size guy called RAMAN i saw in meridian stragies i saw both in LGM before which i bought my timeshare ... same like option vest full of Malay staff .... i tot malay culture all touch heart to heart so now their culture change ? become sin to sin ? timeshare victims beware !!!

Posted by wow... check it out !!* on 14 December, 2008 - 12:44pm

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c'mon man..not only u dat been cheated..there were many others yo..we feel victimize too..but u din hv too be a racist..money rules da world

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 21 January, 2009 - 10:57am

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Wow.
Do you need to pay an upfront money first like you paid to axial management before you could get back your money as promised by this meridian strategies? Lucky you are not so stupid like others who had been sucked 3rd 4th times. Report to police CAD about axial management and plantinum and meridian strategies.

If anyone need to terminate their timeshare they should go back to the timeshare company which they bought. If they have full paid their timeshare and they want to terminate I think it is Free!(I have read one warning notice by Asia Travel Club to their members that if they have fully paid and they want to terminate, it is absolutely Free of charge but Asia Travel Club advised members not to because they can use it since it is already paid).

Do not listen any other 3rd party companies which they can help you terminate your timeshare or resell, liquidate, transfer, reinvest, rent, juridical, enbloc, real estate, stock and share, commodities, funds,.... whatever the name is... They are out there just to suck your money and gone in 2 3 yrs. There are already so many examples...
Of course when it is not fully paid, then you owe a libaliity to the timeshare company. Does that make sense?

There are two options if you owed a timeshare. Simply
1. Use your timeshare if you have fully paid
2. Leave it alone if you are not using it.
IF YOU NEED TO PAY AN UPFRONT MONEY FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN GET YOU MONEY, PLEASE DONT, IT JUST ANOTHER SCAM.

Posted by mr lee* on 15 December, 2008 - 8:57am

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Today, 05:48 PM #14
FactoryEffex
Junior Member

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1 Lucky, I did a research on this Timeshare thing..

I apply for a position with a newly established company called "I-Generic Pte Ltd" as a business executive, went down and they are also dealing with "Buying back your Timeshare" at a fee...They are located at The Central SOHO1, the whole office is very very new..

Well, the commission is fairly good provided I can hit sales target of more than $10k... They told me, if i join them my main role is to call up clients in their datebases and seek clients who wants to sell away or terminate their timeshare. As the conversation goes on, i was told "advisory fees" can reach up to $6k to settle off the timeshare be it legally or through their company... The interviewer, who address himself as "Mr Yeo or Ho", told me they are the first company doing this...As a consultant myself, i was like doubtful..the clear cut way would be go to CASE and why the client must go to them and pay such a high fee? Upon asking him, how come they got so much client datebase with them when they are so new in this trade, he replied me..some executives in those timeshare companies sold their datebase to them... I was like WOW!

Before, I left I requested for a namecard from this interviewer..who claimed he exhausted all of it and unable to give me one...

After I surf the net and read up all the postings here, i think this is another scam company

"I-Generic Pte Ltd"

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=33948583

Posted by ccc* on 12 December, 2008 - 5:48pm

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To all reading this I am YEO replying to FactoryEffex's comment.

To FactoryEffex (KYWC) I know very well who u are.

Your comments are incorrect to a point of being untrue.
QUOTE "As the conversation goes on, i was told "advisory fees" can reach up to $6k to settle off the timeshare be it legally or through their company... The interviewer, who address himself as "Mr Yeo or Ho", told me they are the first company doing this...As a consultant myself, i was like doubtful..the clear cut way would be go to CASE and why the client must go to them and pay such a high fee? Upon asking him, how come they got so much client datebase with them when they are so new in this trade, he replied me..some executives in those timeshare companies sold their datebase to them... I was like WOW! "

As this comment is directed at me (my name is mentioned) it is now taken as a DIRECT DEFAMATION. Legal steps will be taken against you soon.

On the company level, you have also DEFAMED its good name by calling them , QUOTE " After I surf the net and read up all the postings here, i think this is another scam company

"I-Generic Pte Ltd" "
I am advising the company Directors to take action against you.
To fellow readers, have a serious and deep thought.
If I dare to challenge this person and his posting, What does that tell you of me and the Company I work for?

Posted by YEO* on 13 December, 2008 - 3:27pm

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Today, 05:48 PM #14
FactoryEffex
Junior Member

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1 Lucky, I did a research on this Timeshare thing..

I apply for a position with a newly established company called "I-Generic Pte Ltd" as a business executive, went down and they are also dealing with "Buying back your Timeshare" at a fee...They are located at The Central SOHO1, the whole office is very very new..

Well, the commission is fairly good provided I can hit sales target of more than $10k... They told me, if i join them my main role is to call up clients in their datebases and seek clients who wants to sell away or terminate their timeshare. As the conversation goes on, i was told "advisory fees" can reach up to $6k to settle off the timeshare be it legally or through their company... The interviewer, who address himself as "Mr Yeo or Ho", told me they are the first company doing this...As a consultant myself, i was like doubtful..the clear cut way would be go to CASE and why the client must go to them and pay such a high fee? Upon asking him, how come they got so much client datebase with them when they are so new in this trade, he replied me..some executives in those timeshare companies sold their datebase to them... I was like WOW!

Before, I left I requested for a namecard from this interviewer..who claimed he exhausted all of it and unable to give me one...

After I surf the net and read up all the postings here, i think this is another scam company

"I-Generic Pte Ltd"

Posted by ccc* on 12 December, 2008 - 5:44pm

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hi ripalicious, no offence taken..
But i'm sure that people reading your reply to my post must be wondering why you sound like you are defending IGENERIC.
As for my nick, remorseful it's an obvious answer as i have already explained in my previous post which is that i feel remorseful for having been cheated time and again and parted with my hard earned cash and knowing that there will never been an end to it, and thus i am sharing my view with others on the scam companies that i have been to, I do admit that even thou i know there are alot of scam companies out there i still go to any companies that call me up offering to unload my burden off me, just to see what they have to offer for the purpose of compiling evidence of all those scam companies and handing over what evedence i have to the CAD. Coz i think thats the best alternative for all of us, coz i know that the Silver Lining might never come. So the best i can do is to stop them from cheating others like me.

i do wonder thou, why aren't u remorseful after being ripped off as what u mentioned in your post?
Or maybe your nick ripalicious really means Ripping people off and loving it....?

and lastly to all out there.. don't be fooled by all the post in these forums, coz we might not know if they are the victim or r they really the CULPRIT!
Best alternative for everyone, gather what information you have and let the authorities do their job.

Posted by remorseful77* on 29 November, 2008 - 11:33pm

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Hello remorseful77.

No offense was made so why then did you mentioned "no offense taken"
I am amazed at your insinuations and your accusation.
Read your own response:
"people reading your reply to my post must be wondering why you sound like you are defending IGENERIC" and "Or maybe your nick ripalicious really means Ripping people off and loving it....?"
I for one is posting my comments for the benefit of all Timeshare owners like you, me and the other owners.
Allow me to pose a simple question to your comment
"sharing my view with others on the scam companies that i have been to, I do admit that even thou i know there are alot of scam companies out there i still go to any companies that call me up offering to unload my burden off me, just to see what they have to offer for the purpose of compiling evidence of all those scam companies and handing over what evedence i have to the CAD"

It seems that you have been to many of these companies, maybe all of them. Thus you should have collected or compiled as you nicely phrased more than a handful of them. When may I on behalf of the timeshare owners who have been scammed, conned, etc. ask are you going to the authorities and providing us with solid evidence so that we too can do likewise with the information that you can share with us.
Wouldn't it make your case stronger for the authorities to act?

You mentioned that I sound like I am defending IGeneric. come come Remoseful77 read the other comments in response to yours besides mine. They are indeed giving defense and support to IGeneric.
Me I am asking you for more information on what happened on your visit to IGeneric that's all.
Why then are you so DEFENSIVE & SENSITIVE TO MY COMMENT.

Kindly read my 1st reponse to your comment paragraph 10, which states:
To anyone who reads this comment and to Remorseful, kindly do not misunderstand. I am not with IGENERIC, Axial or any of those companies I HATE THEM TO HELL, and neither am I against you "Remorseful".
"neither am I agains you "Remorseful". Why are you taking up arms against me?

The other 2 reponses to you are a direct confrontation with you. Why are you not giving them the same treatment as me on the same day as you made your response to my comment. Your response to them now will not carry anymore weight I am sad to say because I have just enlightened you.

Once again, I ask and this is copied and pasted from my 1st comment;
"How do you know so much of a new company? (I checked with ACRA after your comment)
Who are these people you say who have worked for Axial and LGM?
Did you take up the offer from Axial?
You only said that you went to IGENERIC but did not tell us what happen.
When were you there ? Who did you meet? etc.
Let us the general public judge for ourselves and not just hear from you which is a one-sided version. Everyone of is trying to get out of this fix. Thus we need more from you (as I can see, you are the only 1 giving information on this IGENERIC)".

I am timeshare owner myself like I said, from 1 resort to another spending in total more than $40k. From Calypso Plaza many years ago to Tiki about 8years ago and I have been to about 3 timeshare companies to try to terminate to no avail.

So I and I believe other timeshare owners need to have more information so as to make a logical judgement and hoping for a Silver Lining to appear.

Oh about the Silver Lining. You said "i know that the Silver Lining might never come".
What makes you so sure? Are you one who subscribe to the thought that "Once a convict will always be One". Why then is our government promoting the Yellow Ribbon project.

There must be one kind soul in Singapore to assist us and I hope it does come soon.

Finally kindly be matured enough to stop calling names "Or maybe your nick ripalicious really means Ripping people off and loving it....?" I don't because I am is looking towards an end to the scam and conning of innocent people.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 30 November, 2008 - 3:01pm

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Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 26 November, 2008 - 3:50pm

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Hi i am totally sad and remorseful with what happening in Singapore.there seems to be no place for me to trust or confide with my sorrow.recently been to a blog of igeneric,well when i see that cuming i saw a growing light through the tunnel that i am in.i thnk that there are still people out there who can help me with my problems.each move i make i have always been discreet and dont wish any of my friends to knw with the problems that i am into.i m a timeshare victim with having paid to quite a few companies,with having the latest ones sign with axial management.to my astonishment,when to igeneric,i saw the same guy who work in axial..? well when i see that cuming,i know tis is all a plot of BUSINESS MODULE acting as a GOOD COP.i am totally turn off with the sight of the ppl in there..not one but two same ppl working in axial.and one of the guy are the person who used to wrk in LGM.i may not know him that well but one thng i am certain,these companies being set up with NO GOOD INTENTION at all.i may be losing my instinct but one thng for sure all i can say to u people out there: beware of A COMPANY CALLED IGENERIC.they are trying tactics to lure innocent people by setting up tis blog of theirs and having different intention.at the end of the day one thng i am certain..there seems to be no free lunch in this world.BEWARE!
this company of IGENERIC may also involved with others timeshare marketing companies..? coz i am puzzled of how they know my details and etc....!! i hate thse kind of unscupulous company and people who is out there to cheat innocent people for their own gain!

Posted by remorseful77* on 25 November, 2008 - 11:47am

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http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=33948583
Today, 05:48 PM #14
FactoryEffex
Junior Member

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1 Lucky, I did a research on this Timeshare thing..

I apply for a position with a newly established company called "I-Generic Pte Ltd" as a business executive, went down and they are also dealing with "Buying back your Timeshare" at a fee...They are located at The Central SOHO1, the whole office is very very new..

Well, the commission is fairly good provided I can hit sales target of more than $10k... They told me, if i join them my main role is to call up clients in their datebases and seek clients who wants to sell away or terminate their timeshare. As the conversation goes on, i was told "advisory fees" can reach up to $6k to settle off the timeshare be it legally or through their company... The interviewer, who address himself as "Mr Yeo or Ho", told me they are the first company doing this...As a consultant myself, i was like doubtful..the clear cut way would be go to CASE and why the client must go to them and pay such a high fee? Upon asking him, how come they got so much client datebase with them when they are so new in this trade, he replied me..some executives in those timeshare companies sold their datebase to them... I was like WOW!

Before, I left I requested for a namecard from this interviewer..who claimed he exhausted all of it and unable to give me one...

After I surf the net and read up all the postings here, i think this is another scam company

"I-Generic Pte Ltd"

Posted by wow... check it out !!* on 12 December, 2008 - 5:51pm

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Hi remorseful77, thanks for sharing information with us, the public. But I beg to differ of what you've mentioned though. I have been called by Igeneric and have been there, but the company did not seem to be the same as the other companies that I've been to before. I was not being pressed by the service assistants and there was no hard-selling at all, unlike other companies.

When I decided not to take up any services due to my financial reasons, to my surprise, they did not force me at all. I feel less pressurized when I was there, compared to other companies I've been before.

I'm just here sharing my experience with Igeneric and I feel that this company is a genuine one as I have faith in it somehow. However, I would not strongly against or totally support any company, I'm just merely sharing my thoughts though.

Cheers.

Posted by nanabi* on 25 November, 2008 - 10:07pm

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Pardon my usage of proper English grammar as I am not an endorser of incorrect useage of the language.

I am mad with these so called companies thus is very cautious and careful with my hard-earned cash.

A few questions if I may,

How do you know so much of a new company? (I checked with ACRA after your comment)
Who are these people you say who have worked for Axial and LGM?
Did you take up the offer from Axial?

You only said that you went to IGENERIC but did not tell us what happen.
When were you there ? Who did you meet? etc.

Let us the general public judge for ourselves and not just hear from you which is a one-sided version. Everyone of is trying to get out of this fix. Thus we need more from you (as I can see, you are the only 1 giving information on this IGENERIC).

I agree, THERE ARE NO FREE LUNCHES IN THIS WORLD OR ANY WORLD.
The reason why people get conned time and again is GREED.
They look for gains in trying to resolve their problems.
Like a gambler looking to recoup his losses with winnings, he gets himself more and more into the dark damp world.
Looking for gains on your losses will not happen. Unless you, as they say in the financial investment circle say, are willing to CUT LOSSES. Then and only then will the problem/s be resolved.

Remorseful, your comments seems that you are up in arms against this particular company and not Axial or others who have cheated you, for reason known only to yourself.
Is this a personal vendatta? If so, don't want to get others involve in it.

To anyone who reads this comment and to Remorseful, kindly do not misunderstand. I am not with IGENERIC, Axial or any of those companies I HATE THEM TO HELL, and neither am I against you "Remorseful".

There must be a Silver Lining and the general public is looking for one, and I just want to find a way to rid of the burden.

In case you don't know, I have been ripped too, as the name implies 'RIPALICIOUS".
Since then, I have been very cautious so that I don't part with anymore of my hard-earned cash.
I have been to many of these companies only to be asked too put up more money with promises of substantial profits and what not. NO FREE LUNCHES BUT THERE MUST BE A SILVER LINNING AND I BELIEVE, ONE DAY IT WILL BE THERE. Only that I have to be patient and suffer this fate until the day comes to CUT LOSSES.

By the way, "Remorseful" - Why the name, what are you remorseful about? What did you do to be remorseful? Did you scammed the poor many of us miserable timeshare owners too.

Posted by Ripalicious* on 25 November, 2008 - 7:57pm

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Hei, u thing two worker who work at IGeneric is a scam people. Thing again why thy working at LGM in first place?? Why? Coz LGM is a scam company & the manager is a lies..try to cheat people money to he/she account to weathly his/she people.. Thy realiase it. And thy wanted to change it to help people weathly. Wait and learn one day ur timeshare be a scam.. So u as a timeshare holder go and check and keep up update ur own timeshare detail. Have thy doing thy work or a scam?? think twice before its to late And u read this comment is because this person is dont know anything about IGeneric truth self company..

Posted by Ur devil* on 25 November, 2008 - 3:06pm

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i heard that ERI is liquidating and that their Judicial Managers are looking at meeting up with us people.
Is that true?

Posted by Skeptical* on 20 November, 2008 - 12:56am

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This is so interesting. All looking to make money but got scamed.
Please go to my home page and see an online business that has been making people money since 2004.

Posted by Ecash10* on 13 November, 2008 - 5:18pm

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Good luck to you guys about your timeshare.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 13 November, 2008 - 4:15pm

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Gosh,

I wish i had come to this forum much earlier. So many people on the same boat. I' m totally done for with timeshare.
can we really terminate our contract? can i join any group that is taking legal action against axial management or whatever name they call themselves?

im really angry at myself.

Posted by Angry* on 10 November, 2008 - 9:29pm

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anxious lady,

I can say your $10800 paid to axial mgt is gone in the drain. I dont know whether if this company is still around because there are so many scam companies out there to suck your money and close down after 2 3 years and reopen to another company using new name and then they will call you again and again hoping to squeeze more money from you. Report this to police if you cant find axial mgt. I already told you, there is no such things as you have to pay an upfront money first before you can get your money. Why is it that you want to terminate your timeshare? I already told you, there are 2 options,
1.Use it
2.Leave it alone.
If you dont believe me, engage service from these ressale companies(whatever the name is ) 6 mths or 1 year later, another company will call you again saying that they can terminate your contract.
The choice is clear. Good Luck.

Posted by mr lee* on 10 November, 2008 - 8:29am

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Mr Lee,

Thanks for the response. Fyi, i agreed to a asset liquidation plan with axial management which according to them, they take over my timeshare & invest in rental business. and in 3 years i will get my interest sum & no more hold on the timeshare. so for option i, im not sure i can use the timeshare anymore. [axial management office is closed, claimed relocated. i check acra.gov...now axial is n.k.a (now known as) Platinumbiz Enterprise , Bencoolen Street company regis same as Axial]
option 2..leave it ..but for how long? I dont want my children to be burden with it later.. seriously, im NOT thinking about the money i have paid or so call moni i will get. like you said its burnt. I signed up the timeshare wit my ex husband. I just wan to rid of it.
Option Vests offers me a solution but again with a price tag on.

Seriously, i'm not sure what to say to police ...Thanks anyway :p. I think i do have a better idea wat i NEED to do..:)

Posted by Anxious lady* on 10 November, 2008 - 8:59pm

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Anxious lady,
1. Use it-Check with the timeshare company that you've signed whether you still can use it. Do not believe any other 3rd party company tells you anything.
2. Leave it alone-Why cant you leave it alone? It just like a car you bought and you dont use it and want to leave it alone. Burden to your children? How? Dont be kidding.!! If you really want to terminate your contract, you should to back to the company that you've signed to enqure and not listen to all these 3rd party companies, they are out to con your hard earn money.

So now we know axial management had change to platiniumbiz enterprise, report this to the police, there is a commercial affair department to deal with business scams. You are a victim you must report to the police to put a stop of all these scam companies around. All I have to say to everyone is so simple: IF YOU NEED TO PAY AN UPFRONT MONEY FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN GET YOUR MONEY BACK, PLEASE DONT, ITS JUST ANOTHER SCAM TO CON MONEY FROM IGNORANT PEOPLE.

Posted by mr lee* on 11 November, 2008 - 4:13pm

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If you own a timeshare and someone called you invite you to go down to his or her office for a discussion. If you were told to pay a upfront money first (whatever the name is, transfer to their developer, en-bloc, liquidate, etcs...) before you could get your money back in 6 month, 12 mth or 24 mths... Please dont! There is no such thing! Because if you were to get back your money back in future why cant they deduct the services from the sales proceed after the job is done? One thing they will say: if you were to engage a lawyer, do you have to pay first?

If you own a timeshare, there are 2 options,
1-use it
2-leave it alone.
Forget about getting your money back by going to all these resale company because they will ask you to pay an upfront money first. There were so many companies closed down after 2-3 yrs and open another company by changing its name and then they will call you again.
Owning a timeshare is not really as bad as losing your money away in those resale companies. At least you can use it if you want to.

Posted by mr lee* on 6 November, 2008 - 8:59am

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HELP!

I signed up with Axial management early this year because they claimed that after 3 years n a pay out , i do not own any more timeshare. That was my main reason signing up with them. paid 10800 k.
Recently PlatinumBiz called n set an appt but I didnt go. At the same time, a company called OPTIONS VEST called n claimed that they can engage a lawyer to terminate all my time share contract. I was desperate n i REALLY want to get rid of the time shares so i agreed to their ternination proposal.

Please help me! Are they for real or they too are another scam? Whats freaky is that one of the director happen to be my next block neighbour! they claimed that within a month or so after paying laywer's fee & letters of termination from the time share companys, my time shares contract will be PERMANENTLY terminated.

Can anyone verify this termination is possible & legal? ANyone been called by OPTIONS VEST? I need responses urgently kos im meeting them tmrw to pay 20% of the fees.

Anxious & desperate!

Posted by Anxious lady* on 9 November, 2008 - 4:14pm

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hi, anyone received calls from titac d'azure located in amoy street ? anyone been there before ?

Posted by wonder ??* on 23 October, 2008 - 5:51pm

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Timeshare is not a scam, but most of the companies that run timeshare actually failed due to the reason financial mismanagement, and i have come to know also that 50% of what we paid for a package goes to paying sales commissions.... Crap.... We know this is crap so why do it, risking your money??? well i did it myself and lose some money but lesson learnt. Instead of buying and falling for timshare or another investment example like Sunshine Empire....better go to this company and plant a tree for SGD$35... do charity good and also environment good... dont believe check it out....www.stemsandxylem.com

Posted by Eddy* on 18 October, 2008 - 1:55am

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Of Timeshare scam artists Part 2.

Of Timeshare scam artists

Link: http://tomorrow.sg/archives/2006/09/01/of_timeshare_scam_artists.html

crimeshare said:

To those of you living in Singapore, and who have yet to get that annoying telephone call, a timely warning of a timeshare scam from a company calling itself "GreatConcepts" and claiming to represent a "sponsor" named "O.T. Travel" or, as I have come to find out is in actuality "Oriental Travel". The anatomy of the scam call is as such : 1. Some chap calling claiming that you've won a IBM notebook computer valued at $4,000; they sent the notice to you - didn't you get it? No? Well, they auctioned the "prize" off because it was unclaimed (yeah, you and 2 others who didn't claim their prize). They supposedly even have an advertisement in the local paper highlighting the prize (Wow! Can't believe you didn't see that ad. Well never mind, they have a copy they can fax to you).

______

There are companies doing the right thing helping timeshare victims out from their nightmare once for all and except the fact you can never get your money back but not many believe them. If you want to get out dont hope to get your back,full stop. Putting in more money and hope to take back more money will drive you to your grave so STOP being GREEDY.But sad nobody doing it for free even going to CASE have to pay.

Posted by why greedy on 16 October, 2008 - 2:46am

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I has never happened to me, but I've also heard of people who had this problem in the past. Frankly, to be it something unknown for me and I have no clue what to do to solve it. I'm sorry, but I'm sure that things will get better in the near future. Good luck!

Posted by Alaska Cruises* on 4 October, 2008 - 2:44am

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Those who are trying to ignore the remaining outstanding payments, my advice is don't ignore, take active participation to close it once and for all. If you want your money back, the big word is YES you can, if the company isn't closed for business.

How? Look at this thread - someone here helped a friend of mine out. He's not fake, at least he had some legal folks help out the poor souls out there.

Timeshare Scam Forum

Go ahead and search on Google "Discovery VIII scam". You'll find this thread and the ChannelNewsAsia timeshare scam thread coming up on top lists, so I'm not making this up.

Just PM the guy (register and leave him a Personal Message). Meet his lawyers. If you're not comfortable, just bring a few friends along. What's you gotta lose already right.

Posted by * on 2 October, 2008 - 7:27pm

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well, if you have nt engaged any services, i tink we shldnt criticise all companies as "bloodsucking scumbags" :)

Posted by Ken* on 29 September, 2008 - 6:00pm

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found the company recently Axial management not operate, the other party call up say that the company PlatimumBiz were handle, and make appointment with u to settle the problum.

Posted by simon* on 28 September, 2008 - 9:06pm

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hi simon,
wondering if u have been contacted by platinumbiz rdgs to ur timeshare liquidation.someone from platinumbiz contacted me & claim that GETAM have engaged them to continue to service AXIAL MANAGEMENT clients since GETAM have terminate AXIAL service due leakage of customers' info to other companies.I was told that the payout is still active & will need to come down to PLATINUMBIZ office to sign some papers....Could someone out there pls tell me if this is true.....I really dun wan to be trick again.

PLs help!!!!!!!!!

Posted by sera* on 8 October, 2008 - 7:31am

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Is or can PlatimunBiz can prove GETAM have engaged them to continue the service?

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 16 October, 2008 - 6:50pm

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Yes, Platinum biz and axial mgmt are registered as one company. Don't ever go meet them. They demand $6K to $25K for handling fees claiming it is totally refundable. How could Axial have leaked out clients information. It was obviously done with deliberation.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 15 October, 2008 - 4:39pm

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Why platinumbiz takeover axial management, when so many of you think axial mgmt might be a scam.
Somehow fishy, must check who is people involved in this 2 companies?? Does the company ROC show those detals? I heard from someone that they went to colco ventures inc, same office of this platinum biz. colco ventures engage maxmega group as the agent in takashimaya, what a mess and hope they are no link.

Posted by why greedy on 22 October, 2008 - 7:09pm

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Platinumbiz enterprise p l registry on 25/09/2008, former company name Axial management p l, register office address 30 upper cross street, roc no:200701435K, office operate at175A Bencoolen st,#05-01/02 Burlington sguare.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 23 October, 2008 - 7:49pm

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Platimun biz and Axial mgmt both locate at the same address?

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 18 October, 2008 - 9:45pm

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By not meeting them,does this solve the timeshare problem? Are they link? Who are these people, is there a mastermind behind all these? Who care to give us more information?

Posted by why greedy on 16 October, 2008 - 3:14am

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if u pay, they can solve the problum?

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 16 October, 2008 - 6:47pm

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u have to pay some for the documentation!!!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 13 October, 2008 - 8:36pm

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PlatimunBiz n Axial management register as one company!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 13 October, 2008 - 8:35pm

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found this is the PlatimunBiz contact no:68848417

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 16 October, 2008 - 6:45pm

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a word of caution:

some timeshare employees are also surfing such forums and may try to contribute false or wrong information by pretending to be a victim. please read and filter the information at your own discretion and risk.

this is my opinion after going through some forums.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 12 September, 2008 - 2:27pm

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ThankS!!! Let them think harder to dig!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 13 October, 2008 - 8:38pm

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Has anyone heard about Viva Le Concierge?
I had attended a talk last night, about reselling timeshare.
Wonder this is truth or a scam.
Can someone care to share their views.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 4 September, 2008 - 2:16pm

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I would like to discuss this too. if you can contact me on my hp 97515940 it would be great. tks

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 25 September, 2008 - 9:50pm

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Hi guys,
I came across to your forum due to the fact that I am niave and stupid for been ignorance too. I am also a victim of this timeshare thing. Worst of all, i had lost $$$$$ . i am really in bad shape now. I want to be part of the team to fight against these scams. Pls email me for any updates and if u guys are engaging any lawyers to fight this case. I am going to CASE these few days to have their opinion and advise. For meantime, if anyone here cld help me. i am hapless. Please help me, bcoz of these i seperated with my wife and children. i am financially strained.
any kind souls to show me some lights........i am willing to share my part of stories abt my experience with timeshare.....email me at madazmi@gmail.com

Posted by azmi* on 4 September, 2008 - 12:36am

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anyone been to the free 4 d 3n? is it real? i have been asked to attend but so far still so unsure

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 17 August, 2008 - 7:24pm

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For those who have been called up by Hotels and Villas to settle the unpaid contract amount, have you settled anything with them yet?

If you have not done so, did they send you a lawyer's letter?

Anyone got sued yet?

There are too many of us having the same problems and the solution is unclear and limited. They behave like ah longs and to think we are the victims!

Posted by Another Angry Victim* on 15 August, 2008 - 10:11am

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And here's another interesting link.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/05/08/timeshare.salesperson/index.html

I must disclose that I did buy a timeshare myself too, but it was only a trial version, and I did end up using it in France and Portugal. I didn't get the special promotional holiday that they offered, but the timeshare was real, the place was real, and we really went on holiday...

Posted by jono* on 1 August, 2008 - 2:28pm

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We are not saying that timeshare is not real. We are simply against the way they market their products and the things they hide from us, that is the life time liability/commitment to this membership. And u ended up paying more for resort maintenance yearly. And i mean expensive fees and ever increasing due to inflation. Frankly speaking...timeshare is more suitable for Westerners where they have things like summer vacation...we don't have that kindof luxury!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 1 August, 2008 - 10:29pm

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more people are discussing this at

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=1388885&page=15

Other names being used: Zealz Group, DBL International, DBL Z International...

Posted by jono* on 1 August, 2008 - 2:19pm

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Another update to share with all of u, another company by the name of Option Besps saying that they r paying me for an investment returns and saying that i'm suspose to collect a cash cheque...i believe they r cohoots of all these other companies . I pretended not to be the person they wanted and tried to gather more info from them...but they kept saying it's confidential...yah sure! I've never done any other investments than with my insurance co. thru CPF! So where did this come from! Plse be aware of this! Now they r using another technique to lure pple into their lair!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 31 July, 2008 - 8:57pm

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I've just received a call from Axial Management, who claim they are at 30 Upper Cross St in Chinatown.
I grilled them about how they got my number and who they were and whether they knew which timeshare I actually owned. Basically, I gave them a hard time.
Anyway, I wouldn't trust these people... any sort of deferred payment of this kind is a scam...

... but if you've got the money, I have this beach-front property in toa payoh...

Posted by jono* on 24 July, 2008 - 2:25pm

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i call up the Axial, phone line have been terminate.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 13 October, 2008 - 8:40pm

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I face the same situation in HK with Emperor Resorts International (ERI). We full paid in 2001. They threaten me recently to pay the management fee. Otherwise, they might sue me. How you settle ? Hope to hear from you soon.

Posted by SUNNY* on 16 July, 2008 - 8:43pm

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Hi Everyone,

If you or anyone you know purchased timeshare from Point To Point Destinations, I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! Please contact me!

www.TimeshareRevealed.com

Posted by TimeshareRevealed.com* on 11 July, 2008 - 4:21pm

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Anyone heard of Project Media Pte Ltd?

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 8 July, 2008 - 10:19pm

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watever the company is...just dont listen to them anymore...

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 9 July, 2008 - 11:18am

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Hi all,
Thought i was the only one that was lost! Believe me, i've bgt timeshare from Universal Privilege some yrs back...thinking i might be able to use it...and also out of pity to the young man that was doing the presentation...i've even did an upgrade a yr later...quite unwillingly, stupid me! What's more 2yrs ago Zealz Corp called...and told me the same story...that i guess u guys know abt! I believed them out of desparation, even met up with the lawyer and guess what Axial stepped in. I was stucked in between, and decided to take my chance with axia in 2007! Paid another huge sum! And guess wat, bef the so call 1st interest, they managed to convince me to reduce the waiting time to 16mths, at first i didnt want to but aft talking to them...i took another risk! Then the phone call from Meridian Strategies! This time, i refused to listen to them and insisted not going to meet them. This time i stood firm on my grounds, if Axial doesnt pay, it's either i'll forgo the money or i'll go to CASE. But would the UP come back to me?? That's wat MS claims that UP will not let me off...which is possible. I've stopped paying UP for a yr now, my friend told me, if UP is a proper co, they would have contacted me since the month i stopped payment.That sounded logical, i've even made a police report which they say they didnt detect any anomolies with all the co. i've told them. And they cant do any further investigation unless there are other complaints! My friend whose is working in the legal industry, advised me further to consult CASE. He said, having handled or heard abt these stuff, its most defintely scams involving co that want to reap money out of 'ignorant' pple like me. And among all things, another party called claiming they can help! That was the last thing on earth i wanna hear! My decision now is to go to CASE and on top of that, try to get legal advices from community centres if possible.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 8 July, 2008 - 7:46pm

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wat is the out come u go to the case?

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 9 October, 2008 - 8:34pm

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Hi,
I am so disturbed about all this timeshare thingy it is making me crazy. Never thought that it exist in Singapore. I too signed with Axial Management thinking that they could help me out but it is looking so vague now. Tried calling them from yesterday but did not get through. I even email to Great Eastern Trust in UK but still no reply. Trusting them was another mistake. I thought they are true since I even got a letter from the UK saying that their office has moved. Recently I got into a website Maestro Business saying that they are the only one reselling timeshare agent accredited by the Consumer Timeshare Association. They have an office in Singapore. Truthfully I am scared to call them but want to check if anyone has ever met them before.

Posted by Ms Upset* on 30 August, 2008 - 10:38am

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Ms Upset, yesterday I purposely went down to visit their office. Their office haven't closed down. No worries..............

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 4 September, 2008 - 1:55pm

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Hi, I'm going to receive my so call 1 st interest on this coming September. If I can't get it, I will go to CASE.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 15 July, 2008 - 11:49pm

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have u receive the first????

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 13 October, 2008 - 8:41pm

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Same to u lah.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 9 October, 2008 - 8:37pm

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Hi, pls keep me posted too. I'm suppose to get mine in Sept too!

Posted by Sandra* on 26 August, 2008 - 7:40pm

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Hi Sandra,

I'm going to collect the 1st interest on this coming Friday 12/9. Yours is this Sept also? I think you must call them up first and inform them, I don't think they will send you the mail n ask you to go to collect the money. I called them up today and make them aware that I will be going to their office to collect the money. Today is one Malay gal answer my phone call, then she said she need to check on his computer first to confirm whether I can collect the money. After 5 min, she called back and said that I can collect the money. Not sure is true or not, I will keep you update.

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 8 September, 2008 - 9:52pm

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Keep me posted! If only i've visited this site earlier! sigh! anyway, i've to be strong and u too!

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 31 July, 2008 - 8:59pm

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We are in the same boat! sigh

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 15 July, 2008 - 4:02pm

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our cases are probably different, but i posted details about mine here:

www.TimeshareRevealed.com

Posted by Timeshare Revealed* on 11 July, 2008 - 3:46pm

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hi

i have emailed u.Pls check. hope ur email is in use

Posted by Caroline* on 9 July, 2008 - 9:20am

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Check out to what happen to this joker...

http://www.spug.sg/forums/showthread.php?t=93363

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 3 July, 2008 - 2:42am

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Check out this webpage from UK gov website and read what Getam nature of business is...:)

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/0ace31efe56d2ea9a38b176919183324/compdetails

Posted by Sharing about Axial Management* on 19 June, 2008 - 8:40pm

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Hi, we got a voucher for the Phuket trip 4d/3n after attending a talk at Garraway Enterprise but voucher issued by Dynamikz.. Need to pay $50 for per person administration fees before we booked for the holidays. But all taxes paid by us.
Should we go for this trip ? might scared got terms and conditions down there and end end up have to pay for something?
Anyone who been there pls advise ? Or any comments?
Pls email me : nay_han13@yahoo.com.sg

Posted by nayhan on 6 June, 2008 - 9:22am

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Hi hi! I got called up many times just now...hows is the outcome for your case? mind to share?

Posted by Anonymous Coward* on 14 July, 2008 - 3:30pm

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